We’re sure Fern was simply trying to highlight the terrible scourge that depression can be when she talked about the issue. However, by labeling suicide as a ‘brave’ action she has simply re-enforced the pressure upon men – who commit 76% of all suicides in the UK – to continue to bottle it up. Because society states that real men don’t have problems, real men are always in control, real men are silent.
We’re sure Fern regrets her comments, and didn’t really mean to give the green light to all those men who are at the moment feeling that they’ve not place left to go but undertake a truly hideous act. Because unfortunately that was a truly terrible thing to say. In reality, a really brave action would be for be for those men hitting a low point out there to instead ask for help and talk to someone. Because that’s just what society encourages them NOT to do. A brave thing to do would be to buck the trend, and stay.
Because if they do look for help, it IS there for men. Not everyone expects men to be always in control. Strength isn’t about never having problems, it’s the ability to act on problems and find routes through them. There are people and organisations there for them that are only a call or click away.
It’s great that people are talking about the realities of depression and anxiety, that the moments in life when you can’t see a way forward and it get’s too much is discussed openly and not bottled up, but suggesting suicide is brave is not helpful.
Now, we know how the media works, we know that one phrase, in the middle of a 2 hour conversation about a wide range of other subjects can end up becoming a headline, and we’re sure Fern did not mean to promote this idea specifically, however, now that this idea has been splashed across The Sun, The Mirror, Heat & The Daily Mail we think it’s best that we make our stand point clear.
Can you imagine standing in front of the families and friends of 900 + young men who took their own lives just last year and telling them that their loved one was brave? Do you think they’d agree?
Depression can be treated, managed and overcome. The point is that we need to give men the message that they CAN seek help. Right now the message they get is that to be ‘real’ man, they should be strong and silent. To compound the problem by calling suicide brave helps no-one, not least those depressed.
The fact is more men kill themselves than women (5681 suicides in the UK in 2009, 4674 of which were male) not because they are ‘braver’ (which just reinforces stereotypes) but because in their darkest hour they don’t see that they can ask for help. By definition men aren’t supposed to need help. How about you help us answer some calls Fern? Come and see what we do, see what projects we’re developing and what other peoples experiences are, and see just how and what impact stereotyping has on the suicide rate.
This myth of braveness can, and is quite likely to now, cost more lives and result in more families having to suffer the trauma of losing someone. The message that many may read from this media frenzy is, “if you’re considering suicide, maybe it’s a good idea”. Let us be very clear, it is not, it is not brave and it is not your only option. You can get back to enjoying life and you can come out of the other side of this stronger and better. Be brave, and pick up the phone.
Being Silent Isn’t Being Strong or Brave – it’s being a victim.

















My wife suffers from depression.
Who can we call for help?
David.
Hi David,
Please see our page on depression and mental health here: http://www.thecalmzone.net/talk/issues/mental-health/
It has a list of national agencies that can help support your wife and yourself. You both can also call the CALM helpline, we support all callers, we just target young men in particular.
Hope that helps.
i am hearing voices in my head and am depressed and i can’t keep living like this i am scared that one day i will kill myself i have tried seveal times can any one give me some advise please
Hi Damian,
Please see our page on depression and mental health here: http://www.thecalmzone.net/talk/issues/mental-health/
It has a list of national agencies that can help with hearing voices and depression. You can also call the CALM helpline which is mentioned on the page.
Hope that helps.
I agree with Fern’s comment that suicide is a brave act, albeit a deeply regretable last course of action. Suicide used to have a stigma and be shunned from Church burial, causing loved ones yet more grief to which they are already suffering and will always think of the person they care about that could not go on. I think that those that choose this route as a last resort are brave to carry it out, as long as those that find the body are not disturbed and we must all seek ways of helping preventing further suicides – organisations like CALM are leading this for the benefit of individuals and their families, but please don’t undmine the dignity of those who have committed suicide because they felt they had no other option.
Being someone who is battling with depression i can agree and disagree with what fern said i agree if in the way she means that it is a brave thing to do because of the action itselfs but i disagree with the comment if it was ment in any other way. Kinda of on the same note not most people who do or attempt suicide due to illness dont actually know there doing (the saying cause and effect springs to mind) and most of time (unless people are looking for sympathy) noone will know what the said person is doing planning or done till it is too late.
I think the difficulty may be that the word ‘brave’ was used as an opposite to ‘shameful’. I’m sure we’ve all heard someone talk about how selfish the act of suicide is, and perhaps describing it as ‘brave’, while incredibly inadvisable, was in response to this.